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plan b from boehner. now plan c. unemployment extended for 2 million people and finally, as you just talked about, a small amount of spending cuts, enough to shut off the sequester. but not major kits. not major changes to medicare. that would be kicking the can down the road to next year. they're running out of time. final point is that a source familiar with the meeting on the white house side tells us that the president in this meeting is telling lawmakers if you don't have a counter to the three points i just laid out, bring my proposal up as the final plan for an up or down vote. a games manship from the president. we're running out of time so you have to vote on something. number two, if house republicans vote the president's plan down and we go off the cliff the president would blame republicans and say i had a plan, the republicans couldn't pass it. there's a blame game here. >> that's why he would do it. he can say i came up with a plan, you voted it down. it's not my fault. he can come back in january and f
plan b from boehner. now plan c. unemployment extended for 2 million people and finally, as you just talked about, a small amount of spending cuts, enough to shut off the sequester. but not major kits. not major changes to medicare. that would be kicking the can down the road to next year. they're running out of time. final point is that a source familiar with the meeting on the white house side tells us that the president in this meeting is telling lawmakers if you don't have a counter to the...
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boehner might not be able to do it or might refuse to do it. that's the next step in this process. >> fascinating and perhaps unfortunate scenario. steve handelsman, thank you. >>> a group of democrats along with regular citizens took a shot at republicans today with their own symbolic ball drop outside the u.s. capitol, the group trying to send republicans a message to not on their words drop the ball on the middle class when it comes to offer tax breaks. >>> breaking news this evening in the murder of a capitol hill man shot in his car early monday morning. d.c. police have just released this video of two persons of interest. it is surveillance video from a nearby school. it's not known whether it was taken before or after jason emma was killed. a wild ride landed three people in custody. police say this stolen car crashed into a metro bush near wheeler room. the suspects a littledly went on a purse-snatching spree before the accident. >>> at 6:30, we'll tell you what one of the victims said to the alleged robbers right before they made their
boehner might not be able to do it or might refuse to do it. that's the next step in this process. >> fascinating and perhaps unfortunate scenario. steve handelsman, thank you. >>> a group of democrats along with regular citizens took a shot at republicans today with their own symbolic ball drop outside the u.s. capitol, the group trying to send republicans a message to not on their words drop the ball on the middle class when it comes to offer tax breaks. >>> breaking...
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and he's been doing the media rounds to go after boehner, claiming that boehner is going after conservatives. boehner's people say that's absurd that huelskamp and others were not team players and that's why they were bounced off. host: and the senate at noon, what happens? guest: the senate is not as dramatic, there's no leadership battles. we have a new president pro tem in the wake of senator inway's death. but the interesting -- innway's death, but the interest -- inouye's death. but the interesting thing, republicans expected to be in control of it but things went south for the fwmplet o.p. and democrats gained a couple of seats. that's a surprising thing. republicans think they can win back the senate in two years but it's going to be tough. host: the makeup of the 113th congress and the freshmen coming in in both chambers what are we looking at? guest: 90 new members, men, women, there's a bisexual member, the first time that's ever happened, gay members, nancy pelosi has been very proud of the fact that the house democratic caucus is now a majority minority caucus. she's really empha
and he's been doing the media rounds to go after boehner, claiming that boehner is going after conservatives. boehner's people say that's absurd that huelskamp and others were not team players and that's why they were bounced off. host: and the senate at noon, what happens? guest: the senate is not as dramatic, there's no leadership battles. we have a new president pro tem in the wake of senator inway's death. but the interesting -- innway's death, but the interest -- inouye's death. but the...
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and then you need john boehner to agree and house republicans to agree to bring it up in the same version or very similar version and i think the hurdles that have prevented us from getting a deal for two years are still there. so, i mean, we'll see what the next 14 hours brings but i wouldn't be too optimistic. >> if the senate does manage to hammer out a deal what are the chances the house will go along? you heard what chris van hollen said about an hour ago. >> note he said he thinks there are about two dozen republicans. you'll need closer to 40 republicans at least to push this over the 218 threshold. the problem with that is as tom cole the republican in oklahoma told me yesterday, he said, look. where are you going to find 40 republican house members who are willing to vote for something? if eric cantor and john bainer and kevin mccarthy don't like it, who is going to buck leadership and vote with democrats on something like this? he said, if there is at least lukewarm support from republican leaders you're likely to see more than 40 house republicans vote for it and it should pass
and then you need john boehner to agree and house republicans to agree to bring it up in the same version or very similar version and i think the hurdles that have prevented us from getting a deal for two years are still there. so, i mean, we'll see what the next 14 hours brings but i wouldn't be too optimistic. >> if the senate does manage to hammer out a deal what are the chances the house will go along? you heard what chris van hollen said about an hour ago. >> note he said he...
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boehner's got to get off -- the majority of the majority must agree to something. it's going to take democratic votes to pass a tough fiscal compromise and unless there is inclusion and discussion on both sides of the aisle about this issue, that compromise gets tougher and tougher. >> thank you for coming "outfront." >> appreciate it. thank you. >> now, on the other side of the aisle. republican congressman of wisconsin. congressman, you just heard your arizona colleague say you all should have absolutely stayed in d.c. and worked on a deal over the holidays. do you agree? >> i do. absolutely. we should have stayed there. i think the president should have stayed there. i think the government should have stayed in place and kept working on it. as a freshman member of the congress, i don't have the pull or the power to say when we're going to be there, when we're not but i will say this, that the u.s. house of representatives has acted. we're waiting for the senate to act and i believe that as soon as they act we'll be back in town to find some forge -- some pathway
boehner's got to get off -- the majority of the majority must agree to something. it's going to take democratic votes to pass a tough fiscal compromise and unless there is inclusion and discussion on both sides of the aisle about this issue, that compromise gets tougher and tougher. >> thank you for coming "outfront." >> appreciate it. thank you. >> now, on the other side of the aisle. republican congressman of wisconsin. congressman, you just heard your arizona...
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i was struck by the fact that not a single democrat supported boehner's plan b. that was nancy pelosi's solution. raise taxes on those earning a million dollars or more. not one democrat agreed to vote for it. >> let's talk about that plan brk. it was not successful. hastert had some unkind words saying i don't want to be critical of john, but you don't ever bring something to the floor if you don't have the votes. did the speaker miscalculate and do you think he'll be challenged for the speakership? >> no, he's not going to be challenged for the speakership. he didn't bring it to the floor. he decided not to, but he could have if they had had even 30 democrats willing to say i'll do what nancy pelosi said we should do and that plan brk would have passed. it would have demonstrated we were willing to put revenue on the table and got the wheels gree greased a little bit for a negotiation. >> john harwood tweeted this. he said gop house members and colleagues, i blame most of this on a block of about 50 members who have the political judgment god gave a goose. do y
i was struck by the fact that not a single democrat supported boehner's plan b. that was nancy pelosi's solution. raise taxes on those earning a million dollars or more. not one democrat agreed to vote for it. >> let's talk about that plan brk. it was not successful. hastert had some unkind words saying i don't want to be critical of john, but you don't ever bring something to the floor if you don't have the votes. did the speaker miscalculate and do you think he'll be challenged for the...
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do you think mcconnell and boehner are in the mood to cooperate with president obama? >> i do believe they're in a mood to cooperate. they've talked -- and speaker boehner's talked for a long time about a grand bargain, about a big deal, about trying to find some major solution going forward. but the senate hasn't acted on anything, so i think we have to be careful on just placing the blame on mcconnell or boehner. without adding in to this mix, senator harry reid who is running the senate and have failed to act on anything yet. >> will you support whatever short-term deal the republican leadership supports? >> i don't know what i'm going to support yet until i see it. the previous congressman you had on, raul, interesting enough, his office is right next to mine in longworth. the fact of the matter is we're going to have to find a place to come together. that the president has offered a 7% solution for a 100% problem. i was struck by the fact that not a single democrat supported speaker boehner's plan "b" when that was actually nancy pelosi's solution which was to rai
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could or could not do and the talks were focused between the president and speaker boehner. when he was unable to get enough votes for his idea to have the income tax threshold be at $1 mi million and when that did not work, he insisted that the senate begin to act. politically that is important, because they want to see how many democrats are on board and will all of them join in, and how many senate republicans and especially the more conservative members and members up for re-election in 2014 and how many of them would be prepared to go forward, and then that gives boehner more muscle to try to get enough of his republican members to goal along. in the house, they will need house democrats, and they will need republicans. so there is a mechanical part of this. there is a plit will cal arm wrestling part of this, and there is what will unfold over the next 24 hours in how can they reach a deal. sources in both parties are telling me that part of the sticking point right now is where to set the income threshold and what happens to estate taxes. speaker boehner is saying tha
could or could not do and the talks were focused between the president and speaker boehner. when he was unable to get enough votes for his idea to have the income tax threshold be at $1 mi million and when that did not work, he insisted that the senate begin to act. politically that is important, because they want to see how many democrats are on board and will all of them join in, and how many senate republicans and especially the more conservative members and members up for re-election in...
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he tried to call john boehner that night. john boehner was not returning phone calls. pressure moves the house to change. about $9 billion of the bill will be voted on tomorrow. that needs two-thirds of the house. they think they will get it. then they will be a bigger package later. john boehner had to back down amid the pressure. host: for a total price tag of $60 billion ta? guest: yes. down the road, tax reform, immigration, gun control. i am not sure what the gun- control be in the house. john boehner has told his troops that if we did have a conversation about this out to the connecticut shootings. these are difficult votes. -- after the connecticut shootings. these are difficult votes. to have ad dto have conversation about this after the connecticut shootings. these are difficult votes. we have a new president pro tem in the wake of senator inouye's death. one of the things i was expected to come up was filibuster reform. harry reid very frustrated with what he calls republican obstructionism. the decision was postponed until later this month. there's probably
he tried to call john boehner that night. john boehner was not returning phone calls. pressure moves the house to change. about $9 billion of the bill will be voted on tomorrow. that needs two-thirds of the house. they think they will get it. then they will be a bigger package later. john boehner had to back down amid the pressure. host: for a total price tag of $60 billion ta? guest: yes. down the road, tax reform, immigration, gun control. i am not sure what the gun- control be in the house....
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. >> john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than keeping the nation on firm financial footing. >> the only reason why democrats have been trying to defect -- deflect attention over the past few weeks is they did not have a plan of their own. >> the path for the rest in the hands of the senate. house republican leaders say they will take action on whatever bill can pass the chamber. if there is a breakthrough, the legislation will not pass until the 11th hour or because house members to not return here until sunday night. abc news washington. >> new word on a potential dockworkers' strike that could cripple the nation's economy. the mediator now says contract with the longshoremen on the east and gulf coast have been extended for 30 days. thousands of workers at the port of baltimore and 14 other ports from boston to houston were ready to go on strike sunday. those ports move about 40% of the nation's container cargo traffic. we enjoyed sunshine across the region, but the big story is tomorrow's potential snow. steve rudin is here to talk about that. >> we are watching
. >> john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than keeping the nation on firm financial footing. >> the only reason why democrats have been trying to defect -- deflect attention over the past few weeks is they did not have a plan of their own. >> the path for the rest in the hands of the senate. house republican leaders say they will take action on whatever bill can pass the chamber. if there is a breakthrough, the legislation will not pass until the 11th...
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what does john boehner do if mitch mcconnell and harry reed come to an agreement? >> that is the question if something is done on the senate side, craig, there's been the talk about house republicans as in any majority, you end up bringing the majority of the legislation that is support bid the majority, and if john boehner brings something to the floor that doesn't have the support of the majority of the house republicans, there could be some type of -- his speakership could be threatened, who ends up trying to run against him, you just don't know. about the likelihood of john boehner bringing legislation that is supported mostly by democrats and a handful of republicans will bring him some trouble. that's a dynamic to watch. >> mark murray, senior political editor, thanks to you, sir. for more on what could happen as the fiscal cliff counts down. i want bring in the senior congressional reporter in politico. it's clear from what was said yesterday, that he believes that the senate leaders can put together a deal. take a listen. >> i just had a good and constructi
what does john boehner do if mitch mcconnell and harry reed come to an agreement? >> that is the question if something is done on the senate side, craig, there's been the talk about house republicans as in any majority, you end up bringing the majority of the legislation that is support bid the majority, and if john boehner brings something to the floor that doesn't have the support of the majority of the house republicans, there could be some type of -- his speakership could be...
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. >> reporter: sources say house speaker john boehner deferred to senate colleagues and told him house leaders were consider, accept or amend their plan, what's not expected to be included is increasing the debt limit, something that democrats wanted and republicans have resisted. if senate leaders cannot strike a deal, the president wants congress to vote on what would be plan c. it would focus on three key areas, keeping tax cuts for those making $250,000 or less. extending unemployment benefits and delay dramatic spending cuts until late next year. top senate republicans sound hopeful a deal can be reached. >> we are engaged in discussions, majority leader and myself, and the white house in the hopes that we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation that i can make to my conference and the majority leader can make to his conference. >> among the issues to be hammered out shall the threshold for extending the push tax cuts and president obama campaigned and sounds like, 400,000 may be where they're heading. a leader says that permanency is key, and fixing the deat
. >> reporter: sources say house speaker john boehner deferred to senate colleagues and told him house leaders were consider, accept or amend their plan, what's not expected to be included is increasing the debt limit, something that democrats wanted and republicans have resisted. if senate leaders cannot strike a deal, the president wants congress to vote on what would be plan c. it would focus on three key areas, keeping tax cuts for those making $250,000 or less. extending unemployment...
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bachmann voted for boehner. this tells you how disorganized conservatives are in the end. two days after he proceeds over and endorses the massive tax increase going against basic republican principles. conservatives in the end make him speaker again. >> the caucus is in disarray. they didn't ban together in the fiscal cliff thing. the republicans have more leverage with the credit ceiling. you heard mitch mcconnell refer to it. it will depend if they use that leverage to whether they get together behind a common position. that will be john boehner's channel to deal with that. my gosh, i mean, i don't envy him as two more years as speaker but i don't know why he got re-elected. i don't think anybody else wanted the job. >> bret: former spea speaker dennis hastert has a rule named for him. majority of the majority, bringing forward a bill. don't bring forward a bill unless the majority of your own caucus supports that piece of legislation. talked about that going forward on brian kilmeade radio show this morning.
bachmann voted for boehner. this tells you how disorganized conservatives are in the end. two days after he proceeds over and endorses the massive tax increase going against basic republican principles. conservatives in the end make him speaker again. >> the caucus is in disarray. they didn't ban together in the fiscal cliff thing. the republicans have more leverage with the credit ceiling. you heard mitch mcconnell refer to it. it will depend if they use that leverage to whether they get...
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>> well, look, boehner is a chief of no indians. we saw it again today when he reached the end of the roll call. he didn't have enough votes to be speaker. he needed 218 votes to be speaker. when everybody had already voted. he was at 216. and then they had to drag in bachmann and get her vote and then he managed to eke out a two-vote viblctory in a house where he had 18 extra votes. that's how he is. he's a weak, weak man. a weak speaker. therefore, he can't negotiate with the president because the president can actually make commitments, make decisions. he can say when you send me a bill, i'll sign it. what can boehner say? nothing. >> so you led the charge against the gop tax cuts in 2010. let me play for people what you did. >> every single year for the next ten years, the republican tax plan is to give millionaires enough money for a mercedes-benz. they can buy a bottle of wine from 1787 every year for the next decade. thank you, republican party. here's something else they can do. they can buy 20,000 jars of their favorite mus
>> well, look, boehner is a chief of no indians. we saw it again today when he reached the end of the roll call. he didn't have enough votes to be speaker. he needed 218 votes to be speaker. when everybody had already voted. he was at 216. and then they had to drag in bachmann and get her vote and then he managed to eke out a two-vote viblctory in a house where he had 18 extra votes. that's how he is. he's a weak, weak man. a weak speaker. therefore, he can't negotiate with the president...
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i don't think he is going to vote for boehner. because the hurricane sandy money, big money new york and new jersey held up, here is king. go. >> these republicans have no problem finding new york when they are out raising millions of dollars. he they are in new york all the time filling their pockets with money from new yorkers. i'm saying right now anyone from new york and new jersey who contributes 1 penny to congressional republicans is out of their minds because what they did last night was put a knife in the back of new yorkers and new jerseyens absolute disgrace. >> bill: so king is not voting for boehner. he is cass straght his own party. >> well, i wouldn't say that. this was spoken in a heated moment; it was the same reheated moment. in essence, the same cast of characters from the new york, new jersey delegates met with speaker boehner a short while ago and it was all hashed out and the money for sandy victims for hurricane sandy relief is going to be voted out of the congress in two stages. the final vote on january 15
i don't think he is going to vote for boehner. because the hurricane sandy money, big money new york and new jersey held up, here is king. go. >> these republicans have no problem finding new york when they are out raising millions of dollars. he they are in new york all the time filling their pockets with money from new yorkers. i'm saying right now anyone from new york and new jersey who contributes 1 penny to congressional republicans is out of their minds because what they did last...
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nada for boehner. on the debt limit president obama proposed a structure similar to what republican leader mitch mcconnell proposed last year. boehner wants to hold the nation's full faith and credit hostage once again to attain even more spending cuts. president obama even threw in an added incentive for republicans, by agreeing to a change in the way social security increases are calculated. no such olive branch was ever extended by republicans. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question, is john boehner's move to reconvene the house a face-saving political move or a genuine effort to reach a deal? text a for political. text b for genuine effort. to 622639. or go to our blog at.msnbc.com. i'll bring you the results later in the show. joining me now is legendary congressman charlie rangel of new york. congressman, welcome to the show. >> thank you, doctor. >> speaker boehner is finally reconvening the house. but is this just so much posturing? is there anything substan
nada for boehner. on the debt limit president obama proposed a structure similar to what republican leader mitch mcconnell proposed last year. boehner wants to hold the nation's full faith and credit hostage once again to attain even more spending cuts. president obama even threw in an added incentive for republicans, by agreeing to a change in the way social security increases are calculated. no such olive branch was ever extended by republicans. get your cell phones out. i want to know what...
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the way john boehner leads is he says the house is the will of the american people. with cantor coming out against this, you heard from mr. latourette, it would be very hard for john boehner to move ahead of eric cantor and try to put this bill on the floor without it being amended. >> luke, stand by. mike viqueira is also with us this hour to bring us up to date. one of the points brought up by luke russert when he was speaking with representative latourette was the number that could support the bill as it stands right now, that number that representative latourette was just putting out there was 40 to 50. as we know, that magic number is 218. >> reporter: yeah. here is another number, 89. 89 people in the united states senate voted for this thing and one more number for you, richard, 5. 5 people voting against it. of the eight who voted against it in total were republicans. the thought was that such a strong vote with carry the day in the house of representatives. they would see the political and economic writing on the wall. evidently that's not going to happen or
the way john boehner leads is he says the house is the will of the american people. with cantor coming out against this, you heard from mr. latourette, it would be very hard for john boehner to move ahead of eric cantor and try to put this bill on the floor without it being amended. >> luke, stand by. mike viqueira is also with us this hour to bring us up to date. one of the points brought up by luke russert when he was speaking with representative latourette was the number that could...
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juan, you said people say boehner is safe and i have been hearing opposite. i like boehner. tough situation. trying to herd cats. i don't agree what we did the other day to put a bill on the floor he doesn't have support for. but you think he won't hold on. >> juan: i think he will hold on. i don't think there is enough time before january 3 to line up. what happened to john boehner, my gosh, they -- his troops abandoned him. >> andrea: mccarthy is the whip. he should know how many works he has. >> juan: he works for boehner. >> kimberly: but he goes back -- it was a mess. >> juan: the dynamic didn't make sense. this goes back to what eric said. he, what everybody on the far right side why am i not going to put a vote in place not coming to reality. there >> exactly. no way, true conservative doesn't want taxes to go up. >> juan: but this is where we differ. negotiate and compromise if you care about the country and the economy at some point. i have been elected but let's goletnegotiate. >> kimberly: is president obama going to negotiate? >> eric: if it doesn't start with 25
juan, you said people say boehner is safe and i have been hearing opposite. i like boehner. tough situation. trying to herd cats. i don't agree what we did the other day to put a bill on the floor he doesn't have support for. but you think he won't hold on. >> juan: i think he will hold on. i don't think there is enough time before january 3 to line up. what happened to john boehner, my gosh, they -- his troops abandoned him. >> andrea: mccarthy is the whip. he should know how many...
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boehner has been embarrassed. he could not get the vote of his own caucus, of his own conference to pass a benign piece of legislation, a piece of legislation that protected everybody up to a million dollars. i don't know how you get more embarrassed than that. now, i hope that these guys can get together, these men and women can get together and do something before january 1st. but i'd check those airplane logs if i were you. if they're really serious, they're going to say you're going to get the final word. >> and i'm creating this dynamic of making it difficult. john boehner was not embarrassed. the house works its will. to try to put it ins terms of being embarrassed, misses the whole point. >> and i remember that well because i had a school feed trip to the national zoo that was canceled because the government shut down. so you've robbed your young kids of access. thanks so much for coming on the program. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> up next, capital cliffhanger. behind the scenes in the fiscal cliff n
boehner has been embarrassed. he could not get the vote of his own caucus, of his own conference to pass a benign piece of legislation, a piece of legislation that protected everybody up to a million dollars. i don't know how you get more embarrassed than that. now, i hope that these guys can get together, these men and women can get together and do something before january 1st. but i'd check those airplane logs if i were you. if they're really serious, they're going to say you're going to get...
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boehner has this rule he very much believes in. boehner now, especially after this, has to appear strong to his conference. they are going to ask for an exchange for every dollar the debt limit has raised for adjoining spending cut, not to mention, joanne, they know some concessions democrats are willing to make, medicare entry rates, changing social security. they are not going to raise this for the sake of raising it. they are going to want something in return, something big they can show to their members to say we raised the debt limit, but look what we good from president obama, we may want to get 98% of what we want, just like 2011. >> hold on a second, luke, but i want to go to the former chairman of the republican national committee, michael steele on this. a lot of people say this is a complete capitulation and they don't believe republicans can come back and actually exact spending retribution on the president going forward. do you think the party's going to be able to hold together on that? >> there's some value to the pr
boehner has this rule he very much believes in. boehner now, especially after this, has to appear strong to his conference. they are going to ask for an exchange for every dollar the debt limit has raised for adjoining spending cut, not to mention, joanne, they know some concessions democrats are willing to make, medicare entry rates, changing social security. they are not going to raise this for the sake of raising it. they are going to want something in return, something big they can show to...
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and here's house speaker boehner office responded. senator reid should talk less and legislate more. legislate more? what legislation has speaker boehner been working on while on vacation? while we're about to go over the cliff, the gop has been pointing fingers at the president. one gop aide says talks have failed because "the president made a strategic miscalculation and overreached. he picked a fight." picked a fight? sorry, that's not going to fly. the president has come to the table with numerous proposals. he isn't picking a fight. he's fighting for the american people. we all want a deal. but we will not give up our core principles. the president ran on families and has the american people on his side. that's why speaker boehner and mitch mcconnell are cracking up with the clock ticking. joining me now is form er pennsylvania governor ed rendell. jerry bernstein, senior fellow at the center and jonathan, opinion writer for "the washington post" and an msnbc kriblt tor. contributor. thank you all for coming on the show. governor
and here's house speaker boehner office responded. senator reid should talk less and legislate more. legislate more? what legislation has speaker boehner been working on while on vacation? while we're about to go over the cliff, the gop has been pointing fingers at the president. one gop aide says talks have failed because "the president made a strategic miscalculation and overreached. he picked a fight." picked a fight? sorry, that's not going to fly. the president has come to the...
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juan, you said people say boehner is safe and i have been hearing opposite. i like boehner. tough situation. trying to herd cats. i don't agree what we did the other day to put a bill on the floor he doesn't have support for. but you think he won't hold on. >> juan: i think he will hold on. i don't think there is enough time before january 3 to line up. what happened to john boehner, my gosh, they -- his troops abandoned him. >> andrea: mccarthy is the whip. he should know how many works he has. >> juan: he works for boehner. >> kimberly: but he goes back -- it was a mess. >> juan: the dynamic didn't make sense. this goes back to what eric said. he, what everybody on the far right side why am i not going to put a vote in place not coming to reality. there >> exactly. no way, true conservative doesn't want taxes to go up. >> juan: but this is where we differ. negotiate and compromise if you care about the country and the economy at some point. i have been elected but let's goletnegotiate. >> kimberly: is president obama going to negotiate? >> eric: if it doesn't start with 25
juan, you said people say boehner is safe and i have been hearing opposite. i like boehner. tough situation. trying to herd cats. i don't agree what we did the other day to put a bill on the floor he doesn't have support for. but you think he won't hold on. >> juan: i think he will hold on. i don't think there is enough time before january 3 to line up. what happened to john boehner, my gosh, they -- his troops abandoned him. >> andrea: mccarthy is the whip. he should know how many...
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the house majority and their speaker john boehner. >> moments ago, speaker john boehner met with the new jersey and new york delegations and peter king just emerged saying he will now support the speaker for his re-election tomorrow after boehner vowed to call a vote this friday on $9 billion in flood aid. a second vote on the remaining $51 billion aid package will come the first day of legislative action in the 113th congress. let's back spin. i know, guys, on the face of this it would seem a ridiculous and terrible idea for republicans to say no to advancing this aid package. i will just break down very quickly some of the reasons why having talked to a few republicans today. they wanted to pass a clean bill, a. and b, they want to match that spending with cuts. and i know that a balanced budget sounds so 1998, but i think it's kind of a quaint notion worth keeping around. and they knew that advancing this was not going to allow them the opportunity to match that aid with the necessary cuts. and in addition, i think some of them took to the fact that this bill had some unrelated po
the house majority and their speaker john boehner. >> moments ago, speaker john boehner met with the new jersey and new york delegations and peter king just emerged saying he will now support the speaker for his re-election tomorrow after boehner vowed to call a vote this friday on $9 billion in flood aid. a second vote on the remaining $51 billion aid package will come the first day of legislative action in the 113th congress. let's back spin. i know, guys, on the face of this it would...
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earlier reports of this story had it john boehner would be on hand, but john boehner is not even in washington, d.c., and a spokesperson told us they haven't been invited. so figure that out. who will follow as it continues to break but right now a meettng with congressional leaders on the fiscal cliff with the president on hand tomorrow, friday, and we will shirk over that. i put different topic. even if you aren't a frequent flyer, my next guest says you can enjoy the perks of being one. like being upgraded to first class and it is not as hard as you think. now, rick, have waited for this segment for the whole show because i wanted that elite status but i don't fly enough to really earn it. so tell me, how can i get that elite status without doing all the work were spending all the money? >> typically the one bad problem with elite status if you have to fly. you don't have to fly very much. we'll give you an example of how my wife achieved elite status in one trip but typically a big difference between the miles you get on your credit card and bonuses and vendors to those you can use to rede
earlier reports of this story had it john boehner would be on hand, but john boehner is not even in washington, d.c., and a spokesperson told us they haven't been invited. so figure that out. who will follow as it continues to break but right now a meettng with congressional leaders on the fiscal cliff with the president on hand tomorrow, friday, and we will shirk over that. i put different topic. even if you aren't a frequent flyer, my next guest says you can enjoy the perks of being one. like...
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according to politico, boehner had strong words for the senate majority leader quote, go f yourself boehner. as he pointed his finger at reid. reid a bit startled replied what are you talking about and boehner then repeated it. go f yourself. they didn't cut the deal. in the end it was vice president biden and the senate majority leader. what does this say about the inability to work together? >> i also like the fact according to that story that boehner then went around bragging to everybody he said that to reid. i think they were both at the bottom of the food chain here of decision makers. they were fighting at the bottom of the chain while mitch mcconnell and joe biden were putting together the deal. i think both boehner and reid in a way were powerless in this decision for obvious reasons. and they -- the white house -- i was told by david plouffe a month ago that he much rather would prefer to work with mcconnell than boehner. mcconnell knows how to play chess, boehner doesn't. >> he got his wish. >> and when i talked to the republican senators they said the same thing about harry reid
according to politico, boehner had strong words for the senate majority leader quote, go f yourself boehner. as he pointed his finger at reid. reid a bit startled replied what are you talking about and boehner then repeated it. go f yourself. they didn't cut the deal. in the end it was vice president biden and the senate majority leader. what does this say about the inability to work together? >> i also like the fact according to that story that boehner then went around bragging to...
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i think that hurt them, boehner. i think that's why boehner is being controlled, unfortunately, by the right wing. i agree with bernie sanders. very sad. i believe that boehner's a good man and wants a deal done and impossible with these folks. >> the finger's not only pointed at the republicans and the tea party caucus but also to some democrats. here's one of your republican colleagues this morning. take a listen to what she said. >> sure. >> everything -- it's just about scoring political points and i know that the american people are tired of that. they're tired of all of us. i understand that. we just make -- used car sales men look good. that's the only group below us. we have to get our act together and prove to the american people that we can regain the trust that they once had in us and get the job done. >> yeah. the perception -- go ahead, please, congressman. looking at the can kicked down the road by both sides. >> let me be clear. she is a very good friend of mine and i understand her point of view. but
i think that hurt them, boehner. i think that's why boehner is being controlled, unfortunately, by the right wing. i agree with bernie sanders. very sad. i believe that boehner's a good man and wants a deal done and impossible with these folks. >> the finger's not only pointed at the republicans and the tea party caucus but also to some democrats. here's one of your republican colleagues this morning. take a listen to what she said. >> sure. >> everything -- it's just about...
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boehner has to say what is my plan b.?ced a planet close embrace, what happens is john boehner cannot get enough of his to get on board to have the votes and close helo was actually putting the votes against her own plan amongde democrats. o amongde democrats. o well for pelosi. it is dysfunctional, both parties are really not covering themselves, and here we stand. eric: the president in washington tonight. got some breaking news maybe can cover for us from the speaker and the office said we already have a couple of deals on the table, it is your turn, senate. >> that is where the ball is going now. speaker and the majority leader eric cantor are leaving out is all i is go to the senate because the speaker could be ate the job done last thursday night with plan b. e plan a is essentially the big deal, fortran dollars debt plan speaking a short time ago to a white house official who says they still believe th they move halfway towards republicans starting out only one interest tax in $250,000 above. they have moved that go
boehner has to say what is my plan b.?ced a planet close embrace, what happens is john boehner cannot get enough of his to get on board to have the votes and close helo was actually putting the votes against her own plan amongde democrats. o amongde democrats. o well for pelosi. it is dysfunctional, both parties are really not covering themselves, and here we stand. eric: the president in washington tonight. got some breaking news maybe can cover for us from the speaker and the office said we...
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>> boehner. >> boehner. black? >> john boehner. >> boehner. jon: as we understand it, they are going to be calling the names of perhaps 429 house members. that's the number that responded to the quorum call. there should be, at least by the counts of republicans and democrats in the room, there should be 433 present, but 40 -- what's the number? 419? is that what i said earlier? jenna: i believe that's what you said. i do listen. 429. [laughter] jon: 429. okay, so four of them, i don't know, for whatever reason they're just not present or at least not acknowledging -- jenna: it's a pretty interesting process. these are people you're going to work with for a couple of years, and you have to stand and be present and say who you're going to vote for or say you're not going to vote for. that could be someone tough to face in the hallway when you've got to meet them in the eye and say you didn't get my vote. jon: right. there was some talk among some republican members who were dissatisfied with the leadership of speaker boehner, they wanted to hav
>> boehner. >> boehner. black? >> john boehner. >> boehner. jon: as we understand it, they are going to be calling the names of perhaps 429 house members. that's the number that responded to the quorum call. there should be, at least by the counts of republicans and democrats in the room, there should be 433 present, but 40 -- what's the number? 419? is that what i said earlier? jenna: i believe that's what you said. i do listen. 429. [laughter] jon: 429. okay, so four...
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i think speaker boehner did well through this. i'm a fan of this and i think he will be re-elected as speak. they are taking out frustrations on him when he manages a difficult process. >> bret: kirsten? >> it's not pro or anti-boehner situation as much as why was it get to this point? why couldn't they have -- why so much pork in it. why so much spending that is meant to go and relieve the problem. >> who controls this -- >> it started in the senate. >> you be i'm saying this is the disflux of washington -- dysfunction of washington. they didn't know this was coming out of the senate? can people talk to each other? >> corruption of the word. idea of emergency. this will happen quickly and because earmarks are harder to get. no one knows that passes in midnight. they have done the right thing to hold it up. >> next up, fiscal cliff deal, bill, soon to be law. and the debt ceiling fight to come. look what mommy is having. mommy's having a french fry. yes she is, yes she is. [ bop ] [ male announcer ] could've had a v8. 100% vegetab
i think speaker boehner did well through this. i'm a fan of this and i think he will be re-elected as speak. they are taking out frustrations on him when he manages a difficult process. >> bret: kirsten? >> it's not pro or anti-boehner situation as much as why was it get to this point? why couldn't they have -- why so much pork in it. why so much spending that is meant to go and relieve the problem. >> who controls this -- >> it started in the senate. >> you be i'm...
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it's a wonder that boehner didn't drop the "f" bomb more. the irony here is boehner could lose the job trying to make a deal. harry reid will likely keep his job. boehner is a bore for being blunt and telling the other guy to his face, but reid is an angel for being phony. and referring to rip the other guy only behind his back. this isn't about a speaker losing it. this little exchange is more about a phony decorum that tries to hide it. what is weird is both like boehner an cantor are called fiscal stiffs on the cover of the "new york daily news" for having serious issues with a rescue bill for sandy victims because it wasn't going to just sandy victims. but democrats happy to sign a $60 billion blank check are saints, saying they are happy to tap it to repair smithsonian museum roof and plant trees in ohio. untold millions for items with nothing to do with sandy. not exactly dancing. it's a wonder boehner didn't curse more. more of a wonder why the media didn't wish he did. that is not fair and not right. it's wrong. would it kill us to g
it's a wonder that boehner didn't drop the "f" bomb more. the irony here is boehner could lose the job trying to make a deal. harry reid will likely keep his job. boehner is a bore for being blunt and telling the other guy to his face, but reid is an angel for being phony. and referring to rip the other guy only behind his back. this isn't about a speaker losing it. this little exchange is more about a phony decorum that tries to hide it. what is weird is both like boehner an cantor...
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boehner was offered one to one. not only are phony spending cuts phony, they get smaller each time. >> keep moving the goal post. >>> grover, we have to leave it there. thank you. >> okay. >>> imagine every shipping port from massachusetts to texas shut down. nothing gets in or out. unions mobilizing to strike this weekend. if they don't get their way, will everyone pay? >> forget the fiscal cliff. how about a container cliff and what it m do to the economy. time's running short and a standoff between long shoreman union workers and companies could cripple the nation. unless they reach a dea they plan to strike this weekend. we reached out but haven't heard back yet. steve moore is here with us. if th strike happens, some estimates say $1 billion per day hit to the economy. >> yeah, the's no question. if you -- you used the right word, cripple the economy. the ports in this country are the backbone of our trade, both export and imports and i've read estimates of $100 billion or more comes in and out. so it cook deva
boehner was offered one to one. not only are phony spending cuts phony, they get smaller each time. >> keep moving the goal post. >>> grover, we have to leave it there. thank you. >> okay. >>> imagine every shipping port from massachusetts to texas shut down. nothing gets in or out. unions mobilizing to strike this weekend. if they don't get their way, will everyone pay? >> forget the fiscal cliff. how about a container cliff and what it m do to the economy....
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the house majority and their speaker, john boehner. we respond to innocent victims of natural disasters, not as republicans or democrats, but as americans, or at least we did until last night. >> jennifer: now criticism like that has prompted speaker boehner to change his tune. he now says that congress will take up that storm-relief package this week. coming us tonight from washington to talk about why congress did fail to act is andrew krol a reporter with "mother jones." andy welcome back. happy new year. >> happy new year to you too. >> jennifer: stenny holder says that eric cantor told him that he was 99.9% sure that a sandy package would in fact make it to the floor. and this was before last night. what happened? >> these -- this relief package for the victims of hurricane sandy, focusing on the damage in new york and new jersey was expected to be handled last night amidst all of the fiscal cliff drama, and about an hour before midnight as far as we know house speaker john boehner pulled the vote on this. he quietly said there wa
the house majority and their speaker, john boehner. we respond to innocent victims of natural disasters, not as republicans or democrats, but as americans, or at least we did until last night. >> jennifer: now criticism like that has prompted speaker boehner to change his tune. he now says that congress will take up that storm-relief package this week. coming us tonight from washington to talk about why congress did fail to act is andrew krol a reporter with "mother jones." andy...
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boehner was offered one to one. not only are phony spending cuts phony, they get smaller each time. >> keep moving the goal post. >>> grover, we have to leave it there. thank you. >> okay. >>> imagine every shipping port from massachusetts to texas shut down. nothing gets in or out. unions mobilizing to strike this weekend. if they don't get their way, will everyone pay? [ male announcer ] it's simple physics... a body at rest tends to stay at rest... while a body in motion tends to stay in motion. staying active can actually ease arthritis sympto. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain so your body can stay in motion. because just one 200mg celebrex a day can provide 24 hour relief for many with arthritis pain and inflammation. plus, in clinical studies, celebrex is proven to improve daily physical function so moving is easier. celebrex can be taken with or without food. and it's not a narcotic. you and your doctor should balance the benets
boehner was offered one to one. not only are phony spending cuts phony, they get smaller each time. >> keep moving the goal post. >>> grover, we have to leave it there. thank you. >> okay. >>> imagine every shipping port from massachusetts to texas shut down. nothing gets in or out. unions mobilizing to strike this weekend. if they don't get their way, will everyone pay? [ male announcer ] it's simple physics... a body at rest tends to stay at rest... while a body...
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but two points i would say about boehner. i do think he is an impossible position, especially because he is basically a moderate and the tea party and the conservatives do not trust him answered has made mistakes. the plan b, the morning after bill, as we like to call it that was a debacle, something he caused and was unnecessary, created chaos and not helpful. mcconnell are had to step in the last minute and said let me handle this four, john boehner. he has sort of done the best with that circumstances. also made some missteps. i would say that there is some merit to the idea that someone who is actually from the right of the party or at least has trust from the right of the party could be in a better position to be more effective, just because they would have that base level of trust. right now the conservatives in the party are constantly looking and assuming that john boehner is going to sell them out. and that is not helpful to doing a good job, as much as anyone could do a good job as speaker right now h >> boehner has
but two points i would say about boehner. i do think he is an impossible position, especially because he is basically a moderate and the tea party and the conservatives do not trust him answered has made mistakes. the plan b, the morning after bill, as we like to call it that was a debacle, something he caused and was unnecessary, created chaos and not helpful. mcconnell are had to step in the last minute and said let me handle this four, john boehner. he has sort of done the best with that...
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boehner gets what he wants. the tea party gets what they want which is a no vote. >> sean: you are not happy about it are you? >> i'm not happy at all. the deal we will be hurt, the american people, your children, my grandchildren they are the ones that will pay for this with the is sequestration for their standard of living for the next 20 years and we can't act like this is a victory when it is a defeat. >> sean: if they are playing washington games why are they even there. they weren't elected to play games like this. they were elected to govern. this is frustrating. you know why? then we have the debt ceiling coming up. what excuse will they come up? >> they will not cut spending. harry reid, nancy pelosi, chuck schumer, they are not going to cut spending. >> sean: how about the republicans? >> i hope the next time the republicans don't get rolled like they will be rolled the next 48 hours. >> sean: in one sense, joe, i got to give your president a lot of credit. he went out there, went out campaigning. he d
boehner gets what he wants. the tea party gets what they want which is a no vote. >> sean: you are not happy about it are you? >> i'm not happy at all. the deal we will be hurt, the american people, your children, my grandchildren they are the ones that will pay for this with the is sequestration for their standard of living for the next 20 years and we can't act like this is a victory when it is a defeat. >> sean: if they are playing washington games why are they even there....
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reid says it's up to boehner, white house can't get boehner to talk to them. it's kind of a mess, senator schatz. and it is now part of your party. so what is the next move? there is late news tonight that president obama will convene a meeting of congressional leaders at the white house tomorrow afternoon to discuss the current impasse. and to give you a spirit of the compromise and sense of goodwill toward men in which republican house speaker john boehner is approaching this meeting here is a statement we were e-mailed by brendan bock. "tomorrow speaker boehner will attend a meeting where he will continue to stress that the house has already passed legislation to avert the entire fiscal cliff and now the senate must act." so that's helpful. senator schatz, i know you probably just checked into the marriott capitol hill or something, but i don't know, you got any ideas? joining us is someone who i hope will have ideas. democratic senator debbie stabenow. senator stabenow, thank you for being with us tonight. >> absolutely, ezra. and i wanted to thank you for
reid says it's up to boehner, white house can't get boehner to talk to them. it's kind of a mess, senator schatz. and it is now part of your party. so what is the next move? there is late news tonight that president obama will convene a meeting of congressional leaders at the white house tomorrow afternoon to discuss the current impasse. and to give you a spirit of the compromise and sense of goodwill toward men in which republican house speaker john boehner is approaching this meeting here is...
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footing. >> what is boehner's game plan? does he even have one? ryan grim is washington bureau chief for "the huffington post," and glen johnson is politics editor for boston.com. i worked on the hill for years. you cover the hill and know it. that was a very personal shot from harry reid. is it accurate to say, open question, that speaker boehner is worried about staying speaker? >> yes. he's definitely -- i think he's not worried about his election on january 3rd, but that's not the end of it. you know, i think he's worried about his speakership every day he's speaker -- >> do you agree with that, he's worried he may be losing out or being thrown out of the speakership by his own party? >> for sure. he spent the first two years of his speakership looking over his shoulder as the camera shows of eric cantor right behind him ready -- >> but cantor is with him now, isn't he? hasn't his number two guy joined him? >> he's his number two guy and supporter, but he's the spiritual leader of the tea party caucus there, and that's t
footing. >> what is boehner's game plan? does he even have one? ryan grim is washington bureau chief for "the huffington post," and glen johnson is politics editor for boston.com. i worked on the hill for years. you cover the hill and know it. that was a very personal shot from harry reid. is it accurate to say, open question, that speaker boehner is worried about staying speaker? >> yes. he's definitely -- i think he's not worried about his election on january 3rd, but...
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boehner decided not to do that. now, i think there's clearly some sort of personal -- they don't know how to talk to each other, the white house and boehner. they just don't know how to negotiate with each other. biden and mcconnell do know how to speak to each other. and i think if they get 75 or 80 votes in the senate for what they come up with, and you know what? they're not that far apart on this fix, if you will. basically, they seem to be divided on whether to buy down the sequester. but they're not that far apart. and if they get 75 or 80 votes, that's going to mean 30 to 35 republicans. boehner has to put it on the floor. and boehner doesn't have to -- boehner really doesn't have to support the deal, but he does have to put it on the floor, and it will pass. >> michael steele, take it to robert gibbs. and it's great that some of these people can talk to each other, but they still have to go back to those who don't want to play ball, correct? >> that's exactly right. and that's the reality that we've lived wi
boehner decided not to do that. now, i think there's clearly some sort of personal -- they don't know how to talk to each other, the white house and boehner. they just don't know how to negotiate with each other. biden and mcconnell do know how to speak to each other. and i think if they get 75 or 80 votes in the senate for what they come up with, and you know what? they're not that far apart on this fix, if you will. basically, they seem to be divided on whether to buy down the sequester. but...
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boehner could face an uphill battle, really? even if he wins back the gavel he'll have challenges ahead. joining us the power play fox news live and he's not challenged by anybody except for nancy pelosi, she's not going to get it and he's going to get it, isn't he? i know if he gets 17 nos and they have to keep voting and voting, they'll put him in line. >> one or two. they may punish him, the conservative members we're seeing the votes come in for people who aren't john boehner, these are protest votes, not to make nancy pelosi the speaker of the house again, this is to punish john boehner for what they think was him trading away, and selling out the very principles that put them into office. so he's going to get it. everybody believes that he's going to get it, but they may make him wait until a second ballot and try to embarrass him. >> megyn: all right. and then it will all be forgotten tomorrow. word to washington, it's like a little thumb of the nose. okay, but what if a second -- what does a second, what term will it be
boehner could face an uphill battle, really? even if he wins back the gavel he'll have challenges ahead. joining us the power play fox news live and he's not challenged by anybody except for nancy pelosi, she's not going to get it and he's going to get it, isn't he? i know if he gets 17 nos and they have to keep voting and voting, they'll put him in line. >> one or two. they may punish him, the conservative members we're seeing the votes come in for people who aren't john boehner, these...
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boehner can't come to areement. as much as a 10% unemploymenttyn rate, because both as president and republican parties parties, as you can seema here, they aret playing at the margin in thecust tional media is not focusing washit the reality is. they are just playing games. righalong with the folks in washington. this president is guilty of class warfare. for wht? are you kidding me?ma. president obama seems to love rt the drama. i thought he didn't like drama. the reality is that there will be so little impact on our fiscal future. the after all of the drama and whateeer the outcome, we remaih in great jeopardy. because this isn't a fiscals. future. this is not something that any of us want. don't you love it? a lame-duck session of congress. they areon the ones who haveto steer us away from the fiscal cliff. joining us tonight, governor jo mike when some people struggle with their mortgage payments, they become frozen, petrified. not knowing what to do, they do nothing, but the people who do something, the people
boehner can't come to areement. as much as a 10% unemploymenttyn rate, because both as president and republican parties parties, as you can seema here, they aret playing at the margin in thecust tional media is not focusing washit the reality is. they are just playing games. righalong with the folks in washington. this president is guilty of class warfare. for wht? are you kidding me?ma. president obama seems to love rt the drama. i thought he didn't like drama. the reality is that there will...
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boehner's signature tears flowed and who can blame him? ever all, the man has just had the privilege of leading the most loathed and least productive congress in modern history. having accomplished almost nothing, the to-do list greeting the new congress includes gun control, immigration, the sequester, the debt limit, the farm bill, hurricane sandy relief, the filibuster, and the violence against women act, all items left unresolved by the last congress. but if there is much to do and much republican opposition to doing it, at least speaker boehner can take heart that expectations are firmly in the gutter. the columnist gail collins writes in today's "new york times," the bar is low since some people believe the departing 112th congress was the worst in history because of its stupendous lack of productivity and the favorability rating that once polled lower than the idea of a communist takeover of america. indeed, with expectations so low, at least there's no risk of anyone being disappointed. joining us now is nbc's luke russert live fro
boehner's signature tears flowed and who can blame him? ever all, the man has just had the privilege of leading the most loathed and least productive congress in modern history. having accomplished almost nothing, the to-do list greeting the new congress includes gun control, immigration, the sequester, the debt limit, the farm bill, hurricane sandy relief, the filibuster, and the violence against women act, all items left unresolved by the last congress. but if there is much to do and much...